180.5 with one subwoofer

seen this before,
then at the batesville show, the guy with the 2 dd 18s was saying youd need like 30 or some other big number of subs to get past 160s or 70s

i wanna see pics of alans box though.

stetsom amp any good? i looked at there amps saying 3300 watts at 12.6 volts but it was small amp

great amps if you want prices better be prepared to pay i have numbers for these guys if you want one tho i thought about getting a 7000 watt amp off them dude priced me in the range of two grand but there great amps

scott owens is in the 180 db club with 13 pioneer 12's

sweet i have 2-18"s

ive heard different things about stetsom
some say thay are great daily, some say only comps.
some say they dont do good under their rated ohm load, Then some dealers say they are rated at a reactive load. so you can wire to .25 ohms on them aslong as you rise over 1 or 2 ohms depending on which version amp you get.
from that, that makes me think its more for competition use since you wont have that kind of rise playing music usually.

Then they only have the 1 power and ground input for their 7k 10k and 14k i think.

Ive also read a write up from the Fi guys about how the 7k and up amps also send microwave frequencies through the sub too and fry the tinsel leads

I also read a think about why they are so small and it something with one of the parts in it that i dont know the name of. My numbers probably are right either, but its like where normal amps have a 90 volt thing, those amps have a 140 volt thing. Not really sure what the thing is, but it works apparently.

I was looking at them and sundown a while back and decided on sundown since its closer than brazil, even though they have US distributors now.

yea i have heard good and bad from stetsom.

well im selling my brutus if anyone wants it i would like to try to get an aq2200

Stetsom is good, but alan could have done that number with any combo of amps and that much power. Sales blew up after he took the SPL WR and with one sub at that. Think about how many people hang on Steve Meades nuts and he only does low to mid 150s street beating W/ 30k not really that impressive. Think how much you hear about how good Rockford amps are and Fi subs. Sure you can get results, but the main part is clean power ( Need electrical to back for this as well) and enclosure design. Before Alan the record was a 180.1-2 ish with 4 Fi 18s and 32,000 rms (forget the amps but not Stestom) by Mike Bartel. It has been beat yet again at Spring Nationals by Craig Butler 181.3( i think) using the same ddz woofers as Alan but 4 of them and 8 stetsom 10ks. So they are getting results, but again those set ups could run any amps capable of putting the power out they have would still do that number.

On the flip side Alan also Bass boxed 5 min strait at over 170db. So i would say they are very good with proper electrical. Even with that said for the price using for daily. There are just as good out there.

notice the drop of of Fi fans recently?? everyone wants an SMD sub now.

and alan didnt bass box with the single 18 on that power did he?

there has also been some new testing using one of DC spl lvl4xl thats gettin 178+ with with around 7k clamped, but like 30k of rated power. And it was with a paper cone too. but it kinda broke apart at 178+
I think it was a 15 inch sub too.
i know its still a ways of from the record but i think with a better cone it will be the next to get the record

edit, all i can find now is where its doing a 177

i think mike was running jbl amps

paulie's customs 2- powerbass 3xl 15" and one xta1500d amp in wave box hit 160+

fritosaregood wrote:

notice the drop of of Fi fans recently?? everyone wants an SMD sub now.

and alan didnt bass box with the single 18 on that power did he?

Yep. I sure have seen it and figured it would.

I think it was the same set up. I believe it was at the same contest and i know it was the same vehicle. You could also tell it was not full tilt. He was slowly gaining it up.

ascendant audio does have good subs other then the smd mayham's

kylevh21 wrote:

ascendant audio does have good subs other then the smd mayham's

Yeah, but we are talking about how people follow brands and then throw them off as junk. Those subs (RE, Fi and even AA) were good before people like Meade got them or his sig line made them known. RE builds the Fi and the AA subs. They are all made under the same house by the same designer.

The same can be said for Stetsom amps. No one knew about them till Alan popped a WR with a single sub using them(not many that is). Then they were the next big thing of "there is nothing better out there". Even though his setup would have done that with many different combinations of good amps giving him that power. Sure they are GREAT amps, but there are just as good out there.

well i got a price on stetsom 2k5e $560

MODELS: 2K5E – 1 Ohms
Channels: 1
RMS Power @ 13.8V Mono 1 Ohm: 3300 Watts
RMS Power @ 13.8V Mono 2 Ohms: 2200 Watts
RMS Power @ 13.8V Mono 4 Ohms: 1300 Watts
RMS Power @ 12.6V Mono 1 Ohm: 2500 Watts
RMS Power @ 12.6V Mono 2 Ohms: 1850 Watts
RMS Power @ 12.6V Mono 4 Ohms: 1100 Watts
Minimum Work Impedance: 1 Ohm
Minimum Input Sensitivity: 0,2V
Total Harmonic Distortion: < 0,9 % THD
Signal to Noise: > 90 dB
Crossover Frequency LOW PASS: 50 a 15 KHz
Freq. Response (-3dB) @ 8 Ohms: 20 Hz a 15 KHz:
Power Tension: 9 a 15V
Consumption with Signal Musical: 2,5 a 140 A
Consumption with Signal BASS: 2,5 a 275 A
Dimensions - mm (H x W x L): 70 x 280 x 330
Weight: 4,3 Kg.
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Thats NO retail price. That has to be used. That amp is over $1000 dollars. I have seen them go for around $900 used

MMats 3500s they have 2. One that does it at .5 ohm and the other 1ohm. So depending on setup or if running power class you have options 4ohm on the .5 model is like 400-450 at 4ohm. So for a power class that would help alot.

SPECIFICATIONS

D3500.05 D3500.1

STABLE TO: ½ ohm 1 ohm

SINE-WAVE POWER
@ 13.8 Volts:

Watts @ .5 ohms mono 1 X 3500 N/A
Watts @ 1 ohms mono 1 X 1900 1 X 3500
Watts @ 2 ohms mono 1 X 950 1 X 1900

RESISTIVE (RMS) POWER
@ 13.8 Volts:

Watts @ .5 ohms mono 1 X 2700 N/A
Watts @ 1 ohms mono 1 X 1500 1 X 2700
Watts @ 2 ohms mono 1 X 800 1 X 1500

Idle Current: 1.5 amp 1.5 amp
Signal to Noise Ratio A-Wtd: <85dB <85dB
Total Harmonic Distortion: 0.3% 0.3%
Channel Separation: N/A N/A
Input Sensitivity: 150mV-2.5V 150mV-2.5V
Slew Rate: 13V / Usec 13V / Usec
Fuse Rating / Dual: 100 amp 100 amp

Dimensions:

Height: 2.25” 2.25”
Width: 11.375” 11.375”
Length: 14.375” 14.375”

General Information:

Frequency Response: <10Hz to 275Hz
Low-pass Filter: Variable 24db, 77 to 275Hz
Battery Connectors: 2 Gauge
Speaker Connectors: 8 Gauge


You also have Sundown 3500.1 and AQ3500.1d that actually puts out that or better power. Any of these would be good amps. Just would have to find what suited you, the build and your wallet best.

here are competitor prices the stetsom rep on smd posted up

NEW COMPETITOR PRICING

14K2D 12V 1OHM =1619.20
14K2D 18V 1OHM = 1619.20
11K2D 12V 1OHM = 1530.79
11K2D 18V 1OHM =1530.79
9K2D 12V 1OHM = 1391.63
7K2D 12V 1OHM = 1252.35
6K2D 12V 2OHM =1085.26
5K2D 12V 2OHM =898.81
4K2D 12V 2OHM =725.72
2K5D 12V 2OHM =499.35
1K6D 12V 2OHM =432.78
1K5D HALF BRIDGE=303.60

fritosaregood wrote:

here are competitor prices the stetsom rep on smd posted up

NEW COMPETITOR PRICING

14K2D 12V 1OHM =1619.20
14K2D 18V 1OHM = 1619.20
11K2D 12V 1OHM = 1530.79
11K2D 18V 1OHM =1530.79
9K2D 12V 1OHM = 1391.63
7K2D 12V 1OHM = 1252.35
6K2D 12V 2OHM =1085.26
5K2D 12V 2OHM =898.81
4K2D 12V 2OHM =725.72
2K5D 12V 2OHM =499.35
1K6D 12V 2OHM =432.78
1K5D HALF BRIDGE=303.60

Yep thats more like it. looks like they have come down a bit.

3500 watts on a 2 gauge wire sounds kinda ifey. I would lean more toward to sundown or aq. Man i could never imagine spending 1600.00 on 1 amp. wish i could but that is ALOT of money.

rob t wrote:

3500 watts on a 2 gauge wire sounds kinda ifey. I would lean more toward to sundown or aq. Man i could never imagine spending 1600.00 on 1 amp. wish i could but that is ALOT of money.

Yeah i totally agree. I did have a buddy that was running 2 zx2500.1s with 0 gauge and 300 amp fuse ratings but he gained 3db by using the mmatts 3500s. So some how they do make their power.

mmats is a good brand. I ran a atomic ph5000 which is rated at 5000 watts and it has a 4 gauge + and -. and it put out some good power so somehow they are doing it

fritosaregood wrote:

here are competitor prices the stetsom rep on smd posted up

NEW COMPETITOR PRICING

14K2D 12V 1OHM =1619.20
14K2D 18V 1OHM = 1619.20
11K2D 12V 1OHM = 1530.79
11K2D 18V 1OHM =1530.79
9K2D 12V 1OHM = 1391.63
7K2D 12V 1OHM = 1252.35
6K2D 12V 2OHM =1085.26
5K2D 12V 2OHM =898.81
4K2D 12V 2OHM =725.72
2K5D 12V 2OHM =499.35
1K6D 12V 2OHM =432.78
1K5D HALF BRIDGE=303.60

cheaper price then i was saying and that is new not used but i got an amp that works just fine and plus dont have the money for an amp like that i could just buy the other two 18"s from jeff and run 4

4 18's and a wall. matt from deafwish has 4 15's on a AB 75.1 and its loud