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PostSubject: sub blown?   sub blown? Icon_minitimeMon May 24, 2010 8:31 am

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PostSubject: Re: sub blown?   sub blown? Icon_minitimeMon May 24, 2010 9:31 am

Y do u think it's blown?
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PostSubject: Re: sub blown?   sub blown? Icon_minitimeMon May 24, 2010 11:50 am

they did start to smell for a minute, but the dmm still shows resistance on it
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PostSubject: Re: sub blown?   sub blown? Icon_minitimeMon May 24, 2010 3:00 pm

Yea ... the impedance of the individual coil will change "widely" based on alot of things... The key thing is that its still showing impedance.

Things that alter that reading would be
1) Placement of the coil inside the motor (Since it was resting this can be mostly thrown out, but consider the possibility if it was warped and placed abnormally inside the motor)

2) Ambient air temperature. The more heat outside of the coil, the more heat that gets transferred via conduction to the coil; thus the impedance increase.

3) Coil temperature (a product of power/thermal compression as well as ambient air temperature)... Like in reason #3, the more heat generated in the coil as a product of normal operation, the more resistance you'll have in the coils as a by product of thermal buildup. Also, you may have some clipping in the signal somewhere along the signal chain, even though it is not audible, the clipped signal doesn't turn into acoustic/mechanical energy, but rather, thermal.

4) The DMM's placement in relation to the subwoofer motor. Seems silly, but some DMM's will change their readings based on where you place them around the motor of the subwoofer. I had a DMM read anywhere from 8ohms to 0.6ohms on a single 2ohm coil based simply on where I placed the DMM. The magnetic flux from the motor alters the current inside the machine. Cool stuff, but annoying.
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PostSubject: Re: sub blown?   sub blown? Icon_minitimeMon May 24, 2010 4:56 pm

Recone Twisted Evil
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PostSubject: Re: sub blown?   sub blown? Icon_minitimeMon May 24, 2010 7:25 pm

well idk since the show everytime i play it for a second it smells
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PostSubject: Re: sub blown?   sub blown? Icon_minitimeMon May 24, 2010 7:30 pm

any ideas?
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PostSubject: Re: sub blown?   sub blown? Icon_minitimeMon May 24, 2010 7:55 pm

Could be breakin or could be going out my 2 pennies
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PostSubject: Re: sub blown?   sub blown? Icon_minitimeMon May 24, 2010 8:01 pm

well ill heading to the river and do some demos and see what they do
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PostSubject: Re: sub blown?   sub blown? Icon_minitimeMon May 24, 2010 9:57 pm

if you got the money for a recone, i say demo till they blow. Then when you take them apart, we can finally figure you what size coil it is
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PostSubject: Re: sub blown?   sub blown? Icon_minitimeMon May 24, 2010 10:14 pm

fritosaregood wrote:
if you got the money for a recone, i say demo till they blow. Then when you take them apart, we can finally figure you what size coil it is

thats what i got done telling him, and could probly build them better
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PostSubject: Re: sub blown?   sub blown? Icon_minitimeMon May 24, 2010 10:14 pm

lol they arnt smelling at bad now when i hit low notes they do
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PostSubject: Re: sub blown?   sub blown? Icon_minitimeMon May 24, 2010 10:34 pm

You are probably cooking them. Wont be long i suspect and they will be dead. Voltage was good? Any changes to settings?
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PostSubject: Re: sub blown?   sub blown? Icon_minitimeMon May 24, 2010 10:53 pm

i turned some stuff down just wait and see i guess if they are goin to blow ill re-cone and rebuild them better
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PostSubject: Re: sub blown?   sub blown? Icon_minitimeMon May 24, 2010 10:56 pm

i got some mojos you can buy, haha, then build some 18s out of them
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PostSubject: Re: sub blown?   sub blown? Icon_minitimeMon May 24, 2010 11:03 pm

lol im good for now i think theyre just breaking in ill just keep them turned down for now and wait for results
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PostSubject: Re: sub blown?   sub blown? Icon_minitimeMon May 24, 2010 11:19 pm

if you blow one, you can rebuild and dominate it the stock class if usaci comes back next year
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PostSubject: Re: sub blown?   sub blown? Icon_minitimeMon May 24, 2010 11:21 pm

true but im goin to save up and surprise everyone with something big
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PostSubject: Re: sub blown?   sub blown? Icon_minitimeTue May 25, 2010 10:38 am

So u r thinking they are bad cuz u can smell voice coil? That doesnt mean they are bad just getting hot when u start to smell them turn the volume down lol. EVERY spl system that I have competed with made the coils smell at some point that is how u get loud max em OUT!!!
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PostSubject: Re: sub blown?   sub blown? Icon_minitimeWed May 26, 2010 9:27 am

made a video today and notice the subs coil is rubbing not good at all see what i do at the conway show
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PostSubject: Re: sub blown?   sub blown? Icon_minitimeWed May 26, 2010 3:54 pm

R u saying you noticed the coil rubbing in the video?
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PostSubject: Re: sub blown?   sub blown? Icon_minitimeWed May 26, 2010 11:38 pm

well i haven't been playing the subs until i was going to make a video and when i turn them on i heard one of the subs coil rubbing i guess it had nothing to do with video at all sorry for confusion
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PostSubject: Re: sub blown?   sub blown? Icon_minitimeFri May 28, 2010 11:31 am

How did you hear a coil rubbing?
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PostSubject: Re: sub blown?   sub blown? Icon_minitimeFri May 28, 2010 11:57 pm

i played the subs at low volume and put my ear to the subs
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