competition classes

fritosaregood wrote:

I had another idea for another thing to do at the comps. It might take up more time though. But i was thinkin about somethin like "Lowest Hitting Car"

We had discussed doing something like giving a trophy for the lowest score or picking a random SPL score before the show and whoever came closest to the score at the end would get a trophy.

We had also talked about doing a special one trophy class in which anyone who wanted to participate would pay a small amount(less than the cost of the normal classes) and enter a song of their choice. All of the song choices would be put into a hat and one would be drawn, all competitors would then use that song in the competition. Highest average score would win.

Mine is a daily driver and i have 300 amps of fusing soon to be 600, would that put me up with the bigger spl system, if the fuse rating classes are used?

If those are the rules that are used, then whatever fusing you use during the competition would be used toward your fuse rating. The vehicle I competed with last year was a daily driver and has no fusing at all.

Brad wrote:If those are the rules that are used, then whatever fusing you use during the competition would be used toward your fuse rating. The vehicle I competed with last year was a daily driver and has no fusing at all.

I would have to bet the amps did And if you guys are talking about fusing at the batt. that has no bearing what so ever to the power being used. The fuse at the batt is simply to protect the vehical and should be fused for what wire size is being used.

Brad wrote:

fritosaregood wrote:

I had another idea for another thing to do at the comps. It might take up more time though. But i was thinkin about somethin like "Lowest Hitting Car"

We had discussed doing something like giving a trophy for the lowest score or picking a random SPL score before the show and whoever came closest to the score at the end would get a trophy.

We had also talked about doing a special one trophy class in which anyone who wanted to participate would pay a small amount(less than the cost of the normal classes) and enter a song of their choice. All of the song choices would be put into a hat and one would be drawn, all competitors would then use that song in the competition. Highest average score would win.

I like that idea for highest average in a song, i would enter.
But for lowest hitting car, i mean more along the lines of highest db and like 25 hz. But then when i was thinking of it more it seemed like it would trouble, i also had an idea like making a 25-35 hz sweep track on a cd and taking and average score of that, if it could be done. Just something to show who's setup will get low.

I definatly like the 30 music average. That would be pretty cool. should be easy and pretty fast to run. Im not sure as to the song in a hat. Then you would have your personal CD floating around to get beat up. I dont use but one CD anymore lol my Usaci test cd for my tones. Everything else is on my ipod. wether you use the same cd or just let the competetors choose a song i like the 30 sec average music idea. Key word being music, not tones lol

James Reed wrote:

Brad wrote:If those are the rules that are used, then whatever fusing you use during the competition would be used toward your fuse rating. The vehicle I competed with last year was a daily driver and has no fusing at all.

I would have to bet the amps did And if you guys are talking about fusing at the batt. that has no bearing what so ever to the power being used. The fuse at the batt is simply to protect the vehical and should be fused for what wire size is being used.

No, I had a wire directly from the battery to the amp.

i have been thinking a lot on the fusing. I think if they are used they should be bumped up a bit. 70amps is only going to hold around 700rms. For say 2 12s (0-250 class) that is not that much power as most mid level gear is able to handle 500rms to 750rms per sub. 1000-1500 watt rms amps are pretty common used on say 2 12" systems for daily normal street beating set ups. which would be in the class but would be bumped because of the fuse ruling proposed is set to low. I can see a system using say 2500 or up because then you are gettig into some higher level gear. Just like my 2 15 set up im using 2000 rms on 2 15s. nothing against the norm and is set up for music not SPL. To me thats pretty common. If i was running say 2000 rms per sub or more then yes that would not really be a normal street beater but something that is geared more towards SPL. Thats why i think the batt rule is sufficiant. It already is weeding out the veihicals from a power stand point. Kinda hard to supprot even 3k watts without upgrading to a multi batt system. Even with less power if the vehical is say walled i think it constitutes being bumped up because that is a SPL vehical not a normal daily beater as a standard. So if you decide to go ahead an make a fuse rating ruling. i think you way want to take a 2nd look at what possible combo of subs fit that range and base it off te normal for mid to lower high range gear that would be used in those classes and go from there.

Brad wrote:

James Reed wrote:

Brad wrote:If those are the rules that are used, then whatever fusing you use during the competition would be used toward your fuse rating. The vehicle I competed with last year was a daily driver and has no fusing at all.

I would have to bet the amps did And if you guys are talking about fusing at the batt. that has no bearing what so ever to the power being used. The fuse at the batt is simply to protect the vehical and should be fused for what wire size is being used.

No, I had a wire directly from the battery to the amp.

So the amp had no onboard fuses? or you bypassed them?

James Reed wrote:

Brad wrote:

James Reed wrote:

Brad wrote:If those are the rules that are used, then whatever fusing you use during the competition would be used toward your fuse rating. The vehicle I competed with last year was a daily driver and has no fusing at all.

I would have to bet the amps did And if you guys are talking about fusing at the batt. that has no bearing what so ever to the power being used. The fuse at the batt is simply to protect the vehical and should be fused for what wire size is being used.

No, I had a wire directly from the battery to the amp.

So the amp had no onboard fuses? or you bypassed them?

my amps dont have any onboard fuses.

Mine doesnt either

Anything set on th rules yet? Kinda needing to know if i need to change my set up.

If he doesn't post anything on here today, I will call him to see what the status is.

Ok guys. After thinking about for a while I am going to say the rules will stay the same as last year. I know I don't want to be like USACI and change rules every year. I don't think the majority of the competitors would want to buy or rebuild their car every year. I know it wouldn't be a problem for me since I rebuild every month. Build you stuff based on last years classes. I might add a music class, but if I do it will be a run what you brung and see whos the loudest on music.

Sounds good Jeff. I think the music class would be great. Run what you brung i think would be a good way to test it out and see if there is enough interest to see if it should go into seperating classes.